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Las mil naves

Las mil naves

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  • Author：Natalie Haynes
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Summary

Una novela magistral sobre la guerra de Troya desde una perspectiva femenina。

«Ésta nunca ha sido la historia de una mujer， ni de dos: es la de todas。»

En plena noche， una mujer se despierta y observa que su amada ciudad está envuelta en llamas。 Los diez años de conflicto entre griegos y troyanos， que parecían no tener fin， quedan atrás， con Troya reducida a cenizas。

Desde las mujeres troyanas， cuyos destinos ahora están en manos de los griegos， hasta la princesa amazona que， en nombre de ellas， luchó contra Aquiles， pasando por Penélope， que espera el regreso de Ulises， o las tres diosas con cuya contienda empezó todo。。。 Éstas son las fabulosas historias de unas mujeres envueltas en una guerra legendaria y marcadas por sus terribles secuelas。

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Reviews

Sarah K ，

After reading Circe and Song of Achilles， I was excited to see this novel from the women's perspective。 It was okay until halfway through， and Penelope basically gives a synopsis of all of Odyseuss's adventures--which she couldn't have done since no one had seen or heard from him since he left Troy， and thus why he was presumed dead and she swarmed by suitors。 I could have gotten past it， but it went on and on and in some detail。 If I had wanted to read The Odyssey， I would have read the much be After reading Circe and Song of Achilles， I was excited to see this novel from the women's perspective。 It was okay until halfway through， and Penelope basically gives a synopsis of all of Odyseuss's adventures--which she couldn't have done since no one had seen or heard from him since he left Troy， and thus why he was presumed dead and she swarmed by suitors。 I could have gotten past it， but it went on and on and in some detail。 If I had wanted to read The Odyssey， I would have read the much better original。 。。。more

Amyra Te ，

Maybe more like 3，5 stars。 I love greek mythology， especially told from the women’s perspective。 Maybe I wish I could have spent more time with a few characters rather than so many。 Also Penelope’s letters were so intensely scene setting it got so old。

Lauren ，

i dont really have many thoughts on this book。 I thought the whole layout of the story was interesting， and the way the story was told by a bunch of different small stories focusing on only the women of the Trojan War。 I enjoyed that because we truly do only hear about the few heroic men in Trojan War stories （like Achilles and Odysseus） while the women are completely ignored。

Mia ，

it slayed so hard！ natalie haynes eats every time

Ariadna ，

Libro molto piatto che non aggiunge nulla di nuovo alle storie delle donne coinvolte， direttamente o indirettamente， nella guerra di Troia。 Si limita a riportare tutto ciò che già si sa ampiamente sulla mitologia greca。 Ho fatto fatica a concluderlo。 Due stelle solo perché amo la mitologia。

C ，

Delightfully refreshed retelling from women’s pov 。 Listed to book on tape version performed by author。 Really wanted more， and now I’m hunting for something at this caliber of engagement。

Swati ，

Loved the book and the many characters！ Esp once I got over the fact that Natalie Haynes is not Madeline Miller and gave her distinct storytelling style a fair shot。

Sunshine_Honey ，

This book was so gorgeously written and will stay with me long after finishing it。 As a lover of classics， the characterization of each women was amazing。 Some women only had 10 pages or so， but the reader is fully able to empathize with them。 Also， I cried several times reading it so beware of that。

Ana ，

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 O formato do livro o torna muito interessante e não deixa o ritmo cair em momento algum， as histórias contadas também são muito bem escritas e e cativantes。 Uma releitura muito bem escrita， que possui muitos nuances e traz uma visão inovadora para muitas histórias já conhecidas。 Gostei bastante。

A。 ，

（7/10; good at handling patriarchy， consequently fails to handle class // No Significant Spoilers） To my taste， “One Thousand Ships” is satisfactory as a feminist novelization of the Trojan War; I found myself enjoying the fragmented nature of the story’s narrative。 The central dogma of the novel is that the narrative of the Trojan War may be told entirely from the perspective of the women involved in it。 The blame for the lack of this perspective in the modern literary canon falls upon both mo （7/10; good at handling patriarchy， consequently fails to handle class // No Significant Spoilers） To my taste， “One Thousand Ships” is satisfactory as a feminist novelization of the Trojan War; I found myself enjoying the fragmented nature of the story’s narrative。 The central dogma of the novel is that the narrative of the Trojan War may be told entirely from the perspective of the women involved in it。 The blame for the lack of this perspective in the modern literary canon falls upon both modern and historical patriarchal disenfranchisement。 One recurring character stands out as an authorial stand in， who says to the reader， “I have sung of the women， the women in the shadows。 I have sung of the forgotten， the ignored， the untold” and concludes that “ A war does not ignore half the people whose lives it touches。 So why should we？” Incontrovertibly this is an amiable goal， and as aforementioned， I think the author has done a fairly good job handling the ways in which women were subjugated by this （possibly fictional） war。 As social criticism of subjugation via patriarchy it works， but it’s social criticism begins and ends with women who still maintained power within the hegemony of their class （the characters are all original queens， gods， wives of the renowned， etc）。 With the exception of their womanhood， the oppression that these women face is that done by the war， and so all of these characters begin in positions of relative power over for instance the servants that they had and so forth。 As a novel that tries to examine untold stories， it ends up telling a story that has already been told， that of the powerful exacting vengeance on the powerful whole the lower class —especially lower class women— suffer。 The author clearly wanted to do one thing: tell a story about the women of the Trojan War ， so obviously trying to include another perspective may have taken away from the main thesis of the novel。 Perhaps the novel would be stronger if the emphasis could have been less concentrated on those of greater wealth and higher status。 Thank you Natalie Haynes; it’s been a pleasureMuch respect，-Aps。 I don’t want to sound to harsh given I like this book so I will note that in all fairness it’s not like the Iliad talks about poor people so the author didn’t have much to work with。 。。。more

Stephanie ，

I thoroughly enjoyed this。 I don't know much about Greek mythology and I found this writing and structure easy to digest。 I thoroughly enjoyed this。 I don't know much about Greek mythology and I found this writing and structure easy to digest。 。。。more

Alice ，

Quando l'ho acquistato in libreria non avevo alcuna aspettativa su questo libro: forse è anche per questo che mi è piaciuto tanto。 Lo stile risulta sempre coerente， il registro linguistico medio-alto è sempre perfettamente comprensibile e i temi quali morte， vendette e amore sono trattati in modo sublime， sempre conforme al periodo storico in cui ci troviamo e mai eccessivamente "modernizzati"。 Mi ha stupito di trovare la presenza di personaggi della mitologia/storia greca generalmente sempre po Quando l'ho acquistato in libreria non avevo alcuna aspettativa su questo libro: forse è anche per questo che mi è piaciuto tanto。 Lo stile risulta sempre coerente， il registro linguistico medio-alto è sempre perfettamente comprensibile e i temi quali morte， vendette e amore sono trattati in modo sublime， sempre conforme al periodo storico in cui ci troviamo e mai eccessivamente "modernizzati"。 Mi ha stupito di trovare la presenza di personaggi della mitologia/storia greca generalmente sempre posti in secondo piano o addirittura dimenticati nonostante le loro magnifiche storie （il capitolo su Pentilessea， l'amazzone uccisa da Achille， mi ha fatto letteralmente venire i brividi！）。 Non approvo la decisione di Natalie Haynes di trascurare completamente la figura di Elena， riducendola ad essere la colpovole dell'inizio di tutto。 "Si è parlato troppo di Elena"， dice Calliope ad inizio libro anche se non mi sembra che la sua persona sia mai stata trattata con giustizia。 Non do cinque stelle per il semplice fatto che alla fine resta sempre un re-telling dei più famosi poemi omerici， e seppur visto da un punto di vista differente resta comunque un libro dalla trama non particolarmente pensata。 In più tutto il veleno sputato sulla figura di Elena mi ha turbato abbastanza。 。。。more

Anna Schubert ，

I really liked the concept of this right out of the gate， but felt like the writing/execution was more of a 3-star situation until the last few chapters。

Casey Morrison ，

Love me a modern， female-lead mythological retelling！ I did love hearing these epics from the female perspective， and the take that none of them took their lots in life lying down。 Felt their defiance， and felt sympathetic for them as well， and so I enjoyed it。 Never got emotionally invested tbh （hence 4 vs 5 stars for me）， except maybe for Cassandra， but I don’t really think that was the point！ It was good but maybe a bit forgettable？ That may sound harsh， but I just enjoyed it rather than fall Love me a modern， female-lead mythological retelling！ I did love hearing these epics from the female perspective， and the take that none of them took their lots in life lying down。 Felt their defiance， and felt sympathetic for them as well， and so I enjoyed it。 Never got emotionally invested tbh （hence 4 vs 5 stars for me）， except maybe for Cassandra， but I don’t really think that was the point！ It was good but maybe a bit forgettable？ That may sound harsh， but I just enjoyed it rather than falling down a book rabbit hole， the way I do with my fave novels。 V hard to choose， but I think I liked the POV of Calliope the best。 。。。more

AJ R ，

Not really for me， but if you like classics you might enjoy this。 Nowhere matching the level of Circe or Song of Achilles， but lots of different stories to connect with， which I do appreciate， but is probably why the book as a whole falls short。 I’d give this a two except one small section made me shed a single tear （seriously， I was mostly bored for this entire book except for one part）

Nika ，

Amazing voices， amazing research， amazing stories， amazing book。

Kendra Cameron ，

A fittingly beautiful take on the stories of the women that had previously been relegated to supporting roles in the Greek epics。 Less of a fantasy a la Miller's "Circe" and more of a realistic tale compiling the short stories we didn't know we were missing A fittingly beautiful take on the stories of the women that had previously been relegated to supporting roles in the Greek epics。 Less of a fantasy a la Miller's "Circe" and more of a realistic tale compiling the short stories we didn't know we were missing 。。。more

Celina M ，

“When a war was ended， the men losttheir lives。 But the women lost everything else。”Another Greek myth retelling reflecting on women of the Trojan war。 Very interesting。 I felt like there were so many threads that it was hard to get emotionally involved in the story， although the writing was good。

Donna ，

Loved it。 The author narrates the audiobook and she has a beautiful voice。 It reminded me quite a bit of Circe。

Fiona ，

God I loved this。 I’m not hugely familiar with all the mythology so sometimes I got a bit confused but I think this was such a brilliant book。 I’m glad I read Circe and The Song of Achilles before this cos I had a kind of understanding of how people intersected etc。 And I read Stephen fry’s mythos too which defo helped。 I just think， after reading all these books mainly focused on men and their story， it was so refreshing to see it from the women’s point of view。 I think Penelope’s chapters were God I loved this。 I’m not hugely familiar with all the mythology so sometimes I got a bit confused but I think this was such a brilliant book。 I’m glad I read Circe and The Song of Achilles before this cos I had a kind of understanding of how people intersected etc。 And I read Stephen fry’s mythos too which defo helped。 I just think， after reading all these books mainly focused on men and their story， it was so refreshing to see it from the women’s point of view。 I think Penelope’s chapters were brilliant and I loved how each woman’s story threaded together throughout the book。 Would definitely recommend on audio。 4/5 stars。 。。。more

Racoon ，

4。5

Bonny ，

I wasn't sure that A Thousand Ships was going to be for me; I associate mythology with dry， boring lessons and memorization in high school。 But Natalie Haynes didn't write a dry， boring book， and my lack of knowledge about the Trojan War didn't pose any problems。 The author's retelling of the story from an all-female perspective was the perfect treatment， and she links many different stories from both Greek and Roman heroines。 One of my favorites was Penelope， who Haynes has provided with a voic I wasn't sure that A Thousand Ships was going to be for me; I associate mythology with dry， boring lessons and memorization in high school。 But Natalie Haynes didn't write a dry， boring book， and my lack of knowledge about the Trojan War didn't pose any problems。 The author's retelling of the story from an all-female perspective was the perfect treatment， and she links many different stories from both Greek and Roman heroines。 One of my favorites was Penelope， who Haynes has provided with a voice that any woman can understand。 Women have long been ignored and forgotten and in A Thousand Ships they present us with the true cost of conflict。 “A war does not ignore half the people whose lives it touches。 So why do we？”“When a war was ended， the men lost their lives。 But the women lost everything else。” 。。。more

Виктор Бечев ，

Circe was a great retelling of a classical Greek myth， with a great female lead。 Naomi Novik's Uprooted and Spinning Silver are awesome fairy tail-like stories about the struggles or the corresponding female leads。 The Spellslinger series arguably （if we count out the lead character） has more female main characters than male ones and is a fabulous story， showcasing the strength， bravery and at the same time femininity of those characters。 A Thousand Ships。。。 A Thousand Ships feels like it was wr Circe was a great retelling of a classical Greek myth， with a great female lead。 Naomi Novik's Uprooted and Spinning Silver are awesome fairy tail-like stories about the struggles or the corresponding female leads。 The Spellslinger series arguably （if we count out the lead character） has more female main characters than male ones and is a fabulous story， showcasing the strength， bravery and at the same time femininity of those characters。 A Thousand Ships。。。 A Thousand Ships feels like it was written not to tell or retell a good story with a lot of cool female characters， but just so it could put a shit ton of female characters （well， they were already there， just not main ones） inside of a story for its own sake。 The characters are bland and illogical， but don't get me wrong， this goes for most of them， not just the women， it's just that the women are the focus of the retelling and yet still lack substance。I did my best and passed the halfway point， but the fierce feminism manifesto at chapter 21 was too much to handle。I love a great book with a female lead（s）， but this one just isn't one of them。 After writing this review I'm struggling to see where the second star comes from， but I'll just leave it like this。 。。。more

Monique ，

I was torn between three and four stars。 I enjoyed the premise of this book; the changing PoV made for an expansive story。 However， it also made for a distant and somewhat uninvolved one。 I found it hard to get attached to any of the characters， because they were all so clearly just minor players in a grand game。This book was well-written and an interesting take on the story of Troy， but for me it was a bit too emotionally distant。

Ki ，

Gorgeous poetic book filled with important fables。 Loved it

Alli ，

4。5

Different wordls ，

Adesso parlano loro， che sono state ignorate per troppo tempo。 E ci raccontano la loro storia， che è stata taciuta per troppo tempo。Quanto dolore che hanno dovuto sopportare， queste donne。Adesso il canto appartiene a loro， è a loro voce a parlare， a descrivere con accuratezza la vita che gli è toccata o che non gli è toccata， quando sono state uccise， per garantire onore e gloria agli uomini: codardi， villani， violenti。È una storia in cui non puoi fare a meno di stimare le donne， la loro forza， Adesso parlano loro， che sono state ignorate per troppo tempo。 E ci raccontano la loro storia， che è stata taciuta per troppo tempo。Quanto dolore che hanno dovuto sopportare， queste donne。Adesso il canto appartiene a loro， è a loro voce a parlare， a descrivere con accuratezza la vita che gli è toccata o che non gli è toccata， quando sono state uccise， per garantire onore e gloria agli uomini: codardi， villani， violenti。È una storia in cui non puoi fare a meno di stimare le donne， la loro forza， la loro intelligenza， la loro perseveranza。Il loro essere al di sopra di un uomo， anche in condizioni mortificanti。Grazie calliope per averle fatte cantare。Grazie Natalie per la precisione con cui me le hai presentate。 E grazie a loro， per aver resistito o per aver accettato il loro destino。 Mi fa male il cuore a leggere quanto dolore hanno sopportato， ma è giusto che abbiano avuto l'opportunità di parlarne， perché la guerra non si fa solo sul campo di battaglia， non si fa mai su un campo di battaglia。Non è uno scontro solo di armi， è un privare qualcuno di qualcosa。E in questo caso loro sono state private di tutto。 。。。more

Sometimes IRead ，

First off， I have to state that I had really high expectations going into this because I like reading Greek mythology in general （my honeymoon was in Greece！） and I love female-centered retellings as they just add so much to the story。 Thus， I’d already built up A Thousand Ships by Natalie Haynes in my mind long before I even cracked open the covers of the book。 Which is always asking for disappointment as Flaubert might have said。 I am pleased， however， that Haynes delivered！ I devoured each pa First off， I have to state that I had really high expectations going into this because I like reading Greek mythology in general （my honeymoon was in Greece！） and I love female-centered retellings as they just add so much to the story。 Thus， I’d already built up A Thousand Ships by Natalie Haynes in my mind long before I even cracked open the covers of the book。 Which is always asking for disappointment as Flaubert might have said。 I am pleased， however， that Haynes delivered！ I devoured each page， as quickly as my schedule allowed， and felt satisfied at the end of it。 Indeed， the place of women in Greek mythology is sorely lacking and we do need to delve more into the lives of half of the population。 I also liked how Haynes wove each of the women’s stories into a sort of cohesive whole。 Yes， each woman’s life is unique and deserves to be celebrated。 Despite that， Haynes found a common thread running through each of their stories， and curated them in such a way that the book didn’t read like an anthology but as the flip side of the events of the Sack of Troy。 The heroes’ actions aren’t celebrated here。 Instead we get to examine the impact they have on the women around the heroes and more often than not， it isn’t pretty。 From how pious Aeneas saved his father and son but not his wife Creusa， to how Penelope had to wait twenty years for her husband to return。 It really made me wonder about the lot of women in life because none of the women truly had a happy life in the traditional sense。 Even the seemingly happy endings felt rather ambiguous in my opinion。In my immediate thoughts posted in my stories， I mentioned how I wasn’t a fan of the Calliope chapters。 After sitting on this review for a few days， I wonder if Haynes included them to give women some semblance of agency in the book by highlighting that all the epics and stories surrounding the heroes were given by a female。 Still， I don’t really know how I feel about that。 It is a small quibble anyway and I loved the rest of the book！Diversity meter:Strong female characters 。。。more

Polly ，

Amazing idea and incredible execution。 While seemingly sporadic， all the different stories about this diverse set of women end up offering a fresh take on myths we've heard so much about many times before。 We learn more about the Trojan war through the eyes of queens， warriors， mothers， sisters， daughters， concubines， nymphs， goddesses and slaves。 We also learn more about all the causes and consequences surrounding it。 The book doesn't stray from pain， grief， betrayal or suffering and shows the Amazing idea and incredible execution。 While seemingly sporadic， all the different stories about this diverse set of women end up offering a fresh take on myths we've heard so much about many times before。 We learn more about the Trojan war through the eyes of queens， warriors， mothers， sisters， daughters， concubines， nymphs， goddesses and slaves。 We also learn more about all the causes and consequences surrounding it。 The book doesn't stray from pain， grief， betrayal or suffering and shows the hardships the unsung heroes of the 10-year-long war went through。 After reading "The Song of Achilles" （and loving it） I really enjoyed this opposing point of view for some of the more vital scenes through the eyes of the Trojans， especially all the atrocities Achilles committed。 。。。more

Jennifer Wells ，

I should never read fantasy—I just can’t get into it。 I thought this book was the most depressing， terrible material that I’ve read in a long time。 Killing and war， the whole thing。 Nope。 Greek mythology had its time and place， and should have been left there。 If you don’t usually like fantasy and make believe stuff， just don’t give this a try。 Complete waste of your time。 Otherwise， my opinion will probably be different than one you might consider to be helpful。

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